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Team: Calia1120 Demiknight Lakashi
Prior/inactive team members: Ravalox Wykkyd

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As of version 3.2.6 you will need to download and install the following libaries to use this addon:
LibAddonMenu



Wykkyd Toolbar is an addon originally programmed as a piece of Wykkyd's Framework. It provides an informational bar with on-screen display of useful, configurable, "tools".

Currently included tools:
  • Alliance Points
  • Gold
  • Bag Space
  • Soul Gems
  • Horse Feed Timer
  • Research Timers
  • Time (real world)
  • Level
  • Experience (xp/cp)
  • Experience Bar
  • Werewolf / Vampire experience bar
  • Character Name, Class, Race (if you want that kind of thing)
  • ...and more
  • ...much more coming soon

Advanced Setting Controls (available in all Wykkyd Addons)
  • Save To Default - This feature saves a snapshot of your logged in character's CURRENT settings as a save set named SYSTEM DEFAULT.
  • Load System Default - This loads the current SYSTEM DEFAULT as your character's settings and effectively sets your character to MIMIC the SYSTEM DEFAULT. This behaves exactly like Mimic below, with the exception that the SYSTEM DEFAULT only ever changes when you manually save to it from any character, by clicking Save To Default.
  • Mimic... - This sets the current logged in character to adopt the settings of another character until this value is changed. This causes the logged in character's saved settings to reset every time you log in or Reload UI to be like the mimic'ed character. If you set George to mimic Bob, as you save settings on Bob while playing those settings will become George's settings too whenever you log into George. As you play George and change his settings manually, those changes become temporary unless you clear the Mimic box. This affords some fairly awesome opportunities for your play sessions.
  • Wykkyd's Preferences (where available) - This will Reload UI and set your active character to the basic settings that Wykkyd uses for that addon for his characters as his STARTING point, he customizes each character from there and you are encouraged to also do so.
  • Reset All - Resets all settings inside the Advanced Setting Controls section for that addon, for that character

Use of SYSTEM DEFAULT allows you to basically create system-wide default settings. I say "system" because these settings are not filtered by account name. So if three people share your computer, they all adopt the system defaults (if they selectively choose to do so). This is a "neat trick" for people with multiple accounts as it lets you share settings across all of them.

For example, if you log into your first character and set every Wykkyd addon up the way you want. Then in each you click "Save To Default", one by one. You've now established your "baseline", if you will. You can then log into each character you have (regardless of number of accounts), including that same first character, and inside each, in each addon, click "Load System Default". Now every single character will use the same settings. In fact, because you saved defaults from character 1 and then set character 1 to use those same defaults, even that character is inheriting the SYSTEM DEFAULT every single time it loads. This means if you're on character 7 and decide to change your default for all, all you have to do is tweak your settings and click "Save To Default" and every single character you set up this way gets those settings automatically.

WARNING: System Default, and Mimic, can be dangerous. As of this time this ALSO includes saved item sets, gear sets, quest header settings, tracked achievements... IE: it includes data saved by the addons too. THIS WILL BE CHANGING IN THE FUTURE to be more intuitive and robust. But I didn't want to delay this feature until that was 100% polished. After all, this is fairly useful as is.
V3.2.7
• API updated for Greymoor (100031)

V3.2.6.0
• API updated for Harrowstorm (100030)
• Removed LibStub as it has been discontinued.
• Removed LibAddonMenu, changed to required dependency.

V3.2.5.0
• API updated for Elsweyr (100027)

V3.2.4.0
• Fixed: Setting to mode to display soul stones was not being read correctly. Was always displaying empty/full or off. Should now should all options.
• Fixed: The font color for alliance points pre addon 3.2 was not implemented. Font color has returned for AP.

V3.2.3.0
• Fixed: Several addon settings were being missed when saving or loading addon settings to default.

V3.2.2.0
• Fixed: Tel Var Stone currency was always reporting zero. Call to retrieve currency was missing correct reference for where to look. (Character/Bank).

V3.2.1.0
• Fixed: Setting to turn on/off soul stones was not being picked up.

V3.2.0.1
• Fixed: Setting to turn on/off transmute stone currency was not being picked up.

V3.2.0.0
• Added Crowns, Crown Gems and Tel Var Stones to currencies.
• Reworked setting for showing icon, title or none. Previously there was a setting for icon and title, which suggests you could have both. That was not actually the case. Changed to be a drop-down list of Icon, Title or None.
• Setting icon or title was being controlled on an individual currency level. Changed to be a currency wide setting.
• Reworked setting for “use commas”. Now set as an overall setting for all currency items.
• Alliance Points, Gold, Tel Var Stones and Writs can now be configured to display value on character or stored in bank.
• The settings to enable/disable all currency items has been standardized to use a drop-down menu. Previously some used checkbox, others a list.
• Updated the currency addon settings to use headers and display currencies in alphabetical order.
• Due to several changes in the currency addon settings saved variable version has been incremented.
• All the currency items, except soul stones (which isn’t really a currency) are now using a new single LUA. Previously each currency had an independent file with 90% the same code.
• Fixed the soul stone icon when the character has no soul stones.
• The method to provide a warning color for currencies has been standardized. Prior to the warning limit the value will be normal. From the limit to below maximum is yellow. Maximum is red.


V3.1.3.0
• Fixed bank space metrics when not an ESO plus member.

V3.1.2.0
• Fixed bank space metrics when an ESO plus member.
• Fixed toolbar error when icon for bag/bank space set turned off.

V3.1.1.0
• Added bank space as a new toolbar widget.
• New icon used for bag space. (To be consistent with icon used with bank.)
• Added setting to automatically hide toolbar when in a dialog.
• Added setting to automatically hide world xp when character is not a vampire or werewolf.
• Fix for showing seconds that was applied to "adaptive research timers with days" implemented on the standard adaptive research timers.
• Updated code to hide horse training timer. No longer toggles main horse timer addon setting.
• LibAddonMenu updated to r26
• Fixed reference in addon to LibAddonMenu for divider items.

V3.1.0.0
• Updated to API Version 100026.
V3.0.3.0
• Fixed adaptive research timers to show seconds when time remaining is less than one minute.
V3.0.2.1
• I'd left a debug statement in the code.
V3.0.2.0
• Fixed zone and subzone name showing string control characters on initial load
• Added control character stripping to race and class strings
V3.0.1.0
⦁ Added keybind to toggle the bar on and off
⦁ Added a new Adaptive setting to show days when it is over 24hr remaining
V3.0.0.0
⦁ Added Spacer options
⦁ Reorganized the options into Categories to clean it up a bit
⦁ Fixed Reloading after changing research display options
⦁ Added Event Tickets
⦁ Trying to make non-standard scale settings space a bit better, post in forum or PM Lakashi on esoui.com with a screenshot of your bar and settings if there is an issue!

V2.9.1.2
* Fixed Research Timer bug

V2.9.1.1
* Fixed Logic Error in hiding riding training when maxed (Thanks Aeslief!)

v.2.9.1.0
* Added Writ Vouchers to toolbar and options.
* Added Transmute Crystals to toolbar and options.
* Added setting to change all labels to white.
* Updated Frames Per Second “Moderate Threshold” to have a maximum value or 144.
* Fixed Horse Training toolbar. Will now force control off when completed.


v2.9.0.0
* API updated for Mirkmire (100025)
* LibWykkydFactory4 updated to 4.4.0.0
* Research timer (and settings) added for jewelry crafting.
* Werewolf/Vampire experience code changed to account for GetNumSkillLines returning all skills, not just known skills.


v2.8.1.0 - Calia
* API updated for Horns Of The Reach (100020)
* Updated LAM to 2.0 r24
* changed code in toolbar.lua for better compass reliability (thanks to @Gandalf)
* Updated zone.lua for better zone detection (thanks to @Gandalf)

2.8.0.0 ~ Calia
* Updated to API 19 (Morrowind)

2.7.0.0 ~ Calia
* Updated to API 18
* Updated LAM to 2.0 R23
*Implemented a request to show text when XP Needed chosen on CP/XP. Also added this to % Needed.
* Removed the text for Veteran points from settings menu, now says XP/Champion Points.
* Changed default for bag display to Used/Total instead of Used %.

2.6.1.2
* API updated to 17

2.6.1.1
* API updated to 16
Changed spacer graphic

2.6.0.1
* API fixed, Veteran rank functions replaced with CP functions. This feature will be expanded and adjusted shortly. The current incarnation is an interim fix.

2.6.0.0
* API version updated .. incorrectly (i might add). I used a WIP version of toolbar in error when updating the addon.
Those responsible have been sacked. -- Seńior Llama

2.5.4.1
* Updated to API version 14 (1.9)

2.5.4.0
* A wee modification to the latency tool code. Aye it twas but an tweak of the ranges available for each level and a minor bugger found in the code related to perfect latency (though prolly none of us would have noticed; nudge, nudge, wink, wink!)

2.5.3.2
* Updated to Support ESO v2.2.4

2.5.3.1
* Corrected Vampire/Werewolf XP

2.5.2.0 (released in v2.5.3.1)
* Corrected hide horse timer behaviour
* Updated Horse Timer description verbiage for Training vs Feeding
* Removed Wykkyd's transition code from API 1.5 to 1.65 to cover horse Feeding/Training changes

2.5.1.2
* increased VR limit in XP bar from 14 o 16

2.5.1.1
* Corrected dependency for stand alone
* Disabled "Hide maxed out horse timer" option - will still show 60/60/60 when maxed.
Will correct hide timer option in a future release.

2.5.0.2
* Support for ESOTU 2.1 (API 1.7)
* Additional compass fixes
* Timer grouping option (move horse timer to the right with the research timers)
* optional Indications when horse training has been maxed out

2.4.0.0
This update (2.4.0.0) contains:

* A long awaited bug fix for the Compass Bump feature
* The inclusion of Garkin's code for automatic change to Champion Points from XP when you hit VR14
* Updated supporting documentation to reflect the transition from Wykkyd to Ravalox and Balkoth under the name of Exodus Code Group.

Change-Log will be maintained at WykkydGaming.com in the blog section, under the Change Log category.
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Unread 11/04/18, 03:34 PM  
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I didn't see this looking back in the posts, but I could have missed it. I think the code for the vampire/werewolf needs to be updated. If I'm following things, there was a change in the behaviour to the API call for GetNumSkillLines() and GetSkillLineInfo(). They now return all skills of a type, rather than just those known by the character. Further, GetSkillLineInfo() has been enhanced to return a value of if the skill has been discovered.

With the original code, my vampire was always showing no progress on the toolbar as the loop would end on werewolf. (Which is a skill I don't have.) (EDITED) I updated the code in SpecialWorldXPBar.lua as following:


for xyzzy=1,GetNumSkillLines(SKILL_TYPE_WORLD) do
__--worldSkillName, worldSkillLevel = GetSkillLineInfo(SKILL_TYPE_WORLD, xyzzy)
__worldSkillName, worldSkillLevel, worldSkillDiscovered = GetSkillLineInfo(SKILL_TYPE_WORLD, xyzzy)

__if worldSkillName == "Vampire" and worldSkillDiscovered then
____name = worldSkillName
____rank = worldSkillLevel
____specialWorldSkill = xyzzy
__elseif worldSkillName == "Werewolf" and worldSkillDiscovered then
____name = worldSkillName
____rank = worldSkillLevel
____specialWorldSkill = xyzzy
__end
end


Hard to say if this was really the best solution, but it seemed to fix the issue.
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Originally Posted by calia1120
Originally Posted by Dingodan
And the person who take care about this addon and added some features was "banned" to go further because of copyright? I didn't get it, sorry. He also refered to your team.
There hasn't really been a team in some time. It was largely Ravalox and myself, and for more than a year now, Ravalox has been working on development of another game, Shroud of the Avatar. Drakanwulf and I had a conversation via gitter the other day about the copyright issue and we're working that out.

Pat was banned from my discord for quite literally harassing me. I explained quite nicely to him that I've got quite a bit on my plate, and I was also dealing with some home network issues (17 year old broadcast flooding the home network that very same day, significant other with cardiac health issues, amongst other various things), and I'm trying to balance the demands of a full work schedule with multiple people all wanting updates with various levels of detail.

I'm also in the midst of an insanely busy period with work (SOX audits, combined with Production SQL server failures on a critical system that I'm responsible for) so I got tied up with other things.

That led him to accuse me of lying, which I took offense to. He then took it upon himself to complain several times to the ESOUI site admins, and come back at me again further in my Discord, which is why I kicked him. I banned him when he rejoined.
I should like to confirm the fact that Calia1120 was not lying when she said that she and I are having conversations and that we are trying to find a middle ground where we can collaborate on projects. I can confirm what others have reported in these forums that life has been running Calia1120 through a briar patch of late.

I have never known Calia1120 to deliberately lie to me. Like many of us who like the ESO game and who take the time to program addons to make the game better, life often forces us to make tough decisions and our hobbies are the first to get delayed or temporarily set aside despite our best intentions to get the job done quickly.

My issues with Calia1120 were triggered by my own lack of patience (patience is not one of my virtues) and by my overly aggressive attitude about seeing my manifest changes get approved. Some people do not react well or in a positive manner when they feel as if another person is being "pushy". I know that I do not. In fact, it makes me wonder sometimes why I do to other people that which angers me since I know how poorly I react when other people attempt to do the same to me.
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Originally Posted by Dingodan
And the person who take care about this addon and added some features was "banned" to go further because of copyright? I didn't get it, sorry. He also refered to your team.
There hasn't really been a team in some time. It was largely Ravalox and myself, and for more than a year now, Ravalox has been working on development of another game, Shroud of the Avatar. Drakanwulf and I had a conversation via gitter the other day about the copyright issue and we're working that out.

Pat was banned from my discord for quite literally harassing me. I explained quite nicely to him that I've got quite a bit on my plate, and I was also dealing with some home network issues (17 year old broadcast flooding the home network that very same day, significant other with cardiac health issues, amongst other various things), and I'm trying to balance the demands of a full work schedule with multiple people all wanting updates with various levels of detail.

I'm also in the midst of an insanely busy period with work (SOX audits, combined with Production SQL server failures on a critical system that I'm responsible for) so I got tied up with other things.

That led him to accuse me of lying, which I took offense to. He then took it upon himself to complain several times to the ESOUI site admins, and come back at me again further in my Discord, which is why I kicked him. I banned him when he rejoined.
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And the person who take care about this addon and added some features was "banned" to go further because of copyright? I didn't get it, sorry. He also refered to your team.
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Originally Posted by Marazota
just hire another co-author and all will be fine
I'd like to clarify several things.

- For the person who talked about hiring someone, this has never been a paid effort. That's something that people assume quite often.
- I started the Patreon AGES ago. I haven't seen a penny from that, so no scheme there. Someone suggested I do it if people felt like sending me monetary appreciation for some of what I do. I've written technical articles in the past, well before I got into addon work, which leads to my next point:
- I have a website as a professional portfolio since I work in IT, and I've been working on overhauling it.
- My day job is in corporate IT for a US government defense contractor. I support business critical applications, primarily doing systems administration, database and web development. This means I'm on call the majority of the time due to the nature of what I do.
- I'm a mom to a preteen, first and foremost. This has always been something that I've loved to do, and I've played ESO since closed beta, and I don't plan to walk away from it. Life got the better of me for a bit.

I've reached out to multiple other people who have mentioned working on updates, and have merged in many of their changes. I've extended offers to several of them regarding coming on as collaborators, but they've passed. There was a user who never bothered trying to contact me and was extraordinarily disrepectful their initial posting of their update, and continued to be unnecessarily rude, so yes, I did have that version removed due to the copyright violation.

I've said multiple times that I'm more than willing to collaborate, and presented avenues of communication, yet only a handful have joined me on Discord.
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Originally Posted by Eldrni
Originally Posted by Pat1487
Originally Posted by Eldrni
Calia has had some pretty devastating life-changing events occur in the last year. I think the last thing she's going to want to see is this post, which is pretty damning.

From the Ravalox Quest Tracker thread:



So, let's back off and let her do her thing when she's ready.
I saw that when going back through her comments to see just how often she claims to be updating in the next day or 2. I tried not to comment directly on her excuses, if something happens irl then obviously you can't work on something like these addons. My issue is how she keeps claiming that she will be uploading something in the next day or 2, as if she is still working on them and nearly finished.

Last night, on her discord, she told vency she was getting on tonight to upload (last night is 10/26/2018 for people reading this in the future) and of course there's nothing new from her here today. She has another excuse which you can read in her discord yourself, but again, why would she say she is going to upload later that night while dealing with everything she is dealing with.

I really don't want to be that guy so I won't be posting about every time she says she will upload something and then doesn't, in fact this will probably be the last time I post anything about this subject unless Callia directly responds to it, or actually releases an update for something.

Just to really make my point very clear:

I'm not complaining that she isn't updating addons, or that she has real life things that she needs to attend to. I'm complaining about the constant claims that she is planning to release an update and then never releasing an update.

This can be solved quite easily if she just stops saying she will be updating, and then, if or whenever she actually can get the time to do an update, releases that update and then says "i released an update" after she already released it. Releasing an update isn't required in this solution though, the only thing required is to stop claiming there will be updates.
I don’t know what to tell you. I know when I go to package up my add on for release it takes a while. Usually package it up and then test it to make sure everything is good on a totally separate machine. And then screenshots, writing up the changes, writing up the info for the add on page — it adds up. Takes me an hour start to finish. Maybe she can’t get the time to submit it.

On a separate note, has anyone actually asked to help her out officially? I’ve seen people take the add on and release their own versions but I wonder if anyone has asked to become a co-contributor. Maybe I’m wrong, I’ve not scanned the entire comment log.
I do not think a single author here was but I was not trying to update the addon toolbar or iny addon from the Wykkyd suite but I know there was a misunderstanding of the wrists communication and calia offended from releasing the update under her name as a plugin not as a direct addon update and eventually refused to add as an author
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Originally Posted by Eldrni
Calia has had some pretty devastating life-changing events occur in the last year. I think the last thing she's going to want to see is this post, which is pretty damning.

From the Ravalox Quest Tracker thread:



So, let's back off and let her do her thing when she's ready.
I saw that when going back through her comments to see just how often she claims to be updating in the next day or 2. I tried not to comment directly on her excuses, if something happens irl then obviously you can't work on something like these addons. My issue is how she keeps claiming that she will be uploading something in the next day or 2, as if she is still working on them and nearly finished.

Last night, on her discord, she told vency she was getting on tonight to upload (last night is 10/26/2018 for people reading this in the future) and of course there's nothing new from her here today. She has another excuse which you can read in her discord yourself, but again, why would she say she is going to upload later that night while dealing with everything she is dealing with.

I really don't want to be that guy so I won't be posting about every time she says she will upload something and then doesn't, in fact this will probably be the last time I post anything about this subject unless Callia directly responds to it, or actually releases an update for something.

Just to really make my point very clear:

I'm not complaining that she isn't updating addons, or that she has real life things that she needs to attend to. I'm complaining about the constant claims that she is planning to release an update and then never releasing an update.

This can be solved quite easily if she just stops saying she will be updating, and then, if or whenever she actually can get the time to do an update, releases that update and then says "i released an update" after she already released it. Releasing an update isn't required in this solution though, the only thing required is to stop claiming there will be updates.
I don’t know what to tell you. I know when I go to package up my add on for release it takes a while. Usually package it up and then test it to make sure everything is good on a totally separate machine. And then screenshots, writing up the changes, writing up the info for the add on page — it adds up. Takes me an hour start to finish. Maybe she can’t get the time to submit it.

On a separate note, has anyone actually asked to help her out officially? I’ve seen people take the add on and release their own versions but I wonder if anyone has asked to become a co-contributor. Maybe I’m wrong, I’ve not scanned the entire comment log.
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Unread 10/27/18, 05:25 PM  
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just hire another co-author and all will be fine
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Unread 10/27/18, 12:07 PM  
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Originally Posted by Pat1487
Originally Posted by Baertram
Hey Calia,

the tooltbar still shows character and zone names with the gender stuff (e.g. Shadowfen^n) in it.
Could be removed using e.g.
Code:
zo_strformat("<<C:1>>", nameToStripGenderStuffFrom)
And in the past weeks there was a patched version of Wykkyd's Toolbar. I'd be glad if you could incorporate the changes from this patched unofficial toobar to the official one, as it will fix the above mentioned names + add new functionality like jewelry research etc.
I cannot find it on the esoui.com pages anymore though?


Many thanks.
Calia shut that update down, I wish I downloaded it when I had the chance, haven't been able to find it.

I think she is either trolling or has some patreon scheme going and needs to keep people thinking she is working on these addons to keep making money from patreon. So she will keep stringing everyone along saying updates are coming without ever actually releasing updates. While also shutting down anyone that tries to update them.

Although, I can't find her patreon, if it was a scheme it would be plastered all over, and its not, so maybe I'm wrong on that. I'm just trying to make sense of why she would string people along for almost a year, constantly saying she is pushing out updates in the next day or 2. It just feels like she is running some sort of scheme or trolling.

Just go through the comments of this addon and you will see what I mean. It's even worse than that if you read her comments from other addons. It's even in her discord as recently as monday (10/22/18).

She always has an excuse and we all have real life things that get in the way, but she keeps saying "Uploading in the next 1-2 days" and then not uploading anything and its completely ridiculous. If you have an update that close to release why would you never release it, even if it was weeks late due to real life things. Even if that release was outdated due to the game being updated it would still be better than no release at all.


I'm not trying to go after or attack Calia, she has done incredible work for this community in the past. This post probably seems extremely hostile, but that was not my intent. It just annoys me to see someone stringing people along for this long.

I'm going to make some predictions
  • This addon (and most likely the others) won't be updated any time soon by Calia, probably won't be updated this year at all
  • She will continue stringing everyone along, constantly saying she is working on something but never releasing anything
  • She won't bring anyone in to update the addons for her, but will say she added things people make for it to the official version of the addon (which of course won't be released).

I truly hope I'm wrong about everything.
Calia has had some pretty devastating life-changing events occur in the last year. I think the last thing she's going to want to see is this post, which is pretty damning.

From the Ravalox Quest Tracker thread:
In the past 14 months, I've wrapped up a divorce from an addict (+bonus restraining order for the broken nose he gave me), moved to a new city, and changed jobs. I've also got a 12 year old daughter. Needless to say, I've got a lot going on outside ESO. Point is, everyone has lives outside this stuff, and we write addons in our spare time because we enjoy it, so be nice to the folks who do stuff to help improve ESO.
So, let's back off and let her do her thing when she's ready.
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Hey Calia,

the tooltbar still shows character and zone names with the gender stuff (e.g. Shadowfen^n) in it.
Could be removed using e.g.
Code:
zo_strformat("<<C:1>>", nameToStripGenderStuffFrom)
And in the past weeks there was a patched version of Wykkyd's Toolbar. I'd be glad if you could incorporate the changes from this patched unofficial toobar to the official one, as it will fix the above mentioned names + add new functionality like jewelry research etc.
I cannot find it on the esoui.com pages anymore though?


Many thanks.
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those suggestions can write to you soon, but especially to update addons when many of them make mistakes and, if they understand well, these bugs list mainly because of the addon is now out of date.
what's the point of the communication more generally I like the text form when my English is very weak (I'm Slovak) so I'm using google translator
Discord has the ability to attach files, and I've got a bot with a translate function.
ok I'll write you on the discord-suggestions of the function to your addons. that shoe on discord is exactly how it works when I want something with this boot to translate?
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Originally Posted by vecny.samotar
those suggestions can write to you soon, but especially to update addons when many of them make mistakes and, if they understand well, these bugs list mainly because of the addon is now out of date.
what's the point of the communication more generally I like the text form when my English is very weak (I'm Slovak) so I'm using google translator
Discord has the ability to attach files, and I've got a bot with a translate function.
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Originally Posted by calia1120
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I did not think in the form of a private administration but first as a comment in your addons.
I personally want to update your addons, especially those I use (wykkyd_core_libraries, wykkyd_SuiteManager, wykkydsAchievementTracker, wykkydsEnhancedHUD, wykkydsEnhancedChat, wykkydsMailBox, wykkydsMailBox, wykkydsToolbar)
and after updating I would have several suggestions to add or modify the functions especially with regard to addon wykkydsToolbar
When you say you're looking to personally update them, what is it that you mean? Again, I'm more than willing to discuss collaboration with people, and am providing a means of communication via Discord as it's much easier to discuss things that way, so if you'd like to speak about it further, then by all means, please find me there. It's far more conducive that way.
those suggestions can write to you soon, but especially to update addons when many of them make mistakes and, if they understand well, these bugs list mainly because of the addon is now out of date.
what's the point of the communication more generally I like the text form when my English is very weak (I'm Slovak) so I'm using google translator
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Originally Posted by vecny.samotar
I did not think in the form of a private administration but first as a comment in your addons.
I personally want to update your addons, especially those I use (wykkyd_core_libraries, wykkyd_SuiteManager, wykkydsAchievementTracker, wykkydsEnhancedHUD, wykkydsEnhancedChat, wykkydsMailBox, wykkydsMailBox, wykkydsToolbar)
and after updating I would have several suggestions to add or modify the functions especially with regard to addon wykkydsToolbar
When you say you're looking to personally update them, what is it that you mean? Again, I'm more than willing to discuss collaboration with people, and am providing a means of communication via Discord as it's much easier to discuss things that way, so if you'd like to speak about it further, then by all means, please find me there. It's far more conducive that way.
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calia1120 I know of a lot of work, but if you work on updating your addons, you could publish it as a name, as I know how to complete the update or publish beta versions because we do not know or do the updates or see work at work to work on addon updates
Vecny,

Rather than criticizing me for something I'm doing for free in my spare time, which is not constructive at all, how about you help some of these other people get in touch with me through some of the avenues I'm providing? I've tried reaching out to several of them via ESOUI, with no response.
I've attempted to contact several folks who have posted in threads about code fixes and such, and you'd be surprised at how many people either a) don't allow messages on ESOUI, b) don't allow emails to be sent to them from the site, or c) don't use the same name as they do in game.
I did not think in the form of a private administration but first as a comment in your addons.
I personally want to update your addons, especially those I use (wykkyd_core_libraries, wykkyd_SuiteManager, wykkydsAchievementTracker, wykkydsEnhancedHUD, wykkydsEnhancedChat, wykkydsMailBox, wykkydsMailBox, wykkydsToolbar)
and after updating I would have several suggestions to add or modify the functions especially with regard to addon wykkydsToolbar
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