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Compatibility: | Ascending Tide (7.3.5) |
Updated: | 04/09/22 04:40 PM |
Created: | 04/07/14 11:55 PM |
Monthly downloads: | 535 |
Total downloads: | 71,711 |
Favorites: | 252 |
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Categories: | Chat Mods, RolePlay, Miscellaneous |
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Diriel |
08/30/18 12:09 PM |
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1.13 |
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Diriel |
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Diriel |
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Diriel |
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Diriel |
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Diriel |
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Diriel |
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1.0 |
33kB |
Diriel |
03/05/15 11:22 AM |
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05/05/14, 08:32 PM | |||
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A lot of the issues you're finding are actually resurgences of older grammar fixes that have come back to light when I optimized the fragment system. It needed to be done, though. The old method was extremely unnecessary overhead. All fixed now though. Going to wait to see if any more come in I've not caught before publishing. Seems we're on a roll with the bug finding. |
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05/05/14, 08:46 PM | |
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These may trace back to things you've already fixed.
Marimah: Yes. There can be no doubt. The Withered Hand ... [snip] Me: How does S'anshiarr becomes an Ash'abah? Prince Haqmir: Fate has dealt us a cruel hand, my brother. [snip] Me: You will tell this one, yes? Why would she commands you to do this? |
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05/05/14, 08:53 PM | |||
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An excerpt from the upcoming patch notes:
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05/06/14, 07:55 PM | |
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So far, only found one hiccup in the current version (0.52):
Akhita: Oh, studying it and such. Ragnthar is ... weird. Unique, I guess you'd say. [snip] Me: S'anshiarr is curious. E kind of what? |
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05/06/14, 08:36 PM | ||
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Either way it'll have to wait for the time being, beer and coding don't go well. xP |
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05/06/14, 09:26 PM | ||
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Fortunately, the internet is awesome: http://orcz.com/ESO:_Talk_to_Fighter...logue_-_Akhita "Some kind of what?" is the standard line there. |
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05/06/14, 11:23 PM | |
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More grammar fun:
Captain Usnagikh: Because I know Gudarz from way back - we were in King Ramzi's service together. [snip] Me: Maybe if Khajiit ask around, she can find out what Gudarz is up to. Leja at-Lehiel: Who knows how long those fiends kept the harpies agitated, just to take advantage of this town? Me: You will indulge Khajiit. What shall she does with the matriarch's body? Throne Keeper Farvad: That was the name of our Yokudan ancestors during the exodus from our ancient homeland. [snip] Me: The are priests returning to Tu'Whacca's throne, yes? (Without the addon, "Are the priests returning" etc) Throne Keeper Farvad: Tu'whacca tells me that the heroic spirits have returned to their slumber. Me: Did Khajiit passes the spirits' test? Throne Keeper Farvad: Tu'whacca tells me that you are bound to the greatest of Redguard virtues: honor and loyalty. [snip] Me: This what this one was is meant to learn, yes? (Come again?) Throne Keeper Farvad: You now know the truth of your heart. Me: So was this one meants to learn her true nature? |
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05/07/14, 03:40 AM | |
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And an amusing occurrence that may or may not be fiddle-worthy/able:
Duke Renchant: Say, you look like someone I've been hearing quite a bit about. Might I ask your name? Me: Of course, Your Highness. S'anshiarr's name is S'anshiarr. (Because redundant cat is redundant.) |
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05/07/14, 10:18 AM | ||
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As for the rest of the issues you've found, I'll start working on them soonish. Still waking up from revelry last night. xD Oh, and thanks for finding that original line. That's one of those rare issues that no-one's been able to give me an example I can use to reproduce it before.
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05/10/14, 03:43 AM | ||
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Looks like you upgraded it couple of times since I was last here, so you can disregard most of it. I'm mainly posting it in case you missed something in the process:
0.49 As it turns out, Khajiit not only supposes but also: and sometimes even: while handled 'right', these phrases, sadly, fall outside of 'true' Khajiit-speak. Also, I think you promised to fix this one (and probably did): Still, I don't believe you thought about adding punctuation checks (just in case). On a side note, that entire quest with this add-on is hilarious: Me: Khajiit needs your sword. Hand it over. Not sure if "unders" is original typo or something to do with 'do/does'-stuff, though - only noticed it after looking through old screenshots or I'd check it myself On a whole, think it's pretty persuasive - after all, why would someone not trust Khajiit? Especially after being asked so nicely (looking like a bald, bearded male altmer sure helped her case... but seeing how she got her sword anyway, I guess that Queen must be getting her guards in the same shop as those Veiled guys) Oh, and, maybe you shouldn't break up dialogue lines with 'fluff'? More often than not it breaks dialogue flow. Especially in case like this - between two questions. And since I started on a subject of 'fluff': This one is redundant, and sometimes even spoils the line =/ 0.5 Also, I don't believe that following is neutral enough: It does work pretty good in some places, like in 'why should I trust you?' when first meeting Raz; in other cases (like this) it ruins the dialogue. Maybe only keep it with lines that have "you/yourself" in them? - at least then PC would only apologize when asking something personal (more often than not). Then again, there's also a 'have you seen?' question that doesn't exactly fit in. On a subject of "them" instead of 'original' pronoun: I still don't think it works (given few examples before even), seeing it 'in action' did not help much. At least you should avoid using it in sentences with '[name] and I' formula, because there won't always be a "both" to save the day (following actually works... as good as it can, anyway): I would recommend simply leaving pronouns 'as is', unless they are of same gender as PC. Also note that "him" (as a reference to NPC) actually works with Khajiit (unlike "her") in '[Khajiit] will find [NPC]' that is used 90% of the time. "That one" is so/so - works better overall (better than I expected, really), but still can lead to relatively confusing stuff like this: Here it doesn't exactly resolve ambiguity problem - quite the opposite, in fact (then again, it might be the only line in the whole ESO where it does so). I'd recommend avoid using it with "This one", if only to reduce wordiness. Fluff aside, during questing I found out that there's more than just Khajiit's queens that run around rampant, ruining your dialogue: And I'm not exactly sure what went wrong with these two: PS I also got "S'jura is S'jura" (as if wasn't obvious enough) example yesterday, but since it's already posted I won't bother. This stuff is too random to report it reliably or guess of possible outcome before it happens PPS I actually love this one, can it stay? Pretty please? With moon sugar on top? (at least as easter egg - with low probability?)
Last edited by CGT_400 : 05/10/14 at 04:40 AM.
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05/10/14, 11:56 AM | |||
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As for the second one, I have been thinking of a way to take care of all the places that have needed an "'s" to make sense. I would somehow figure out where it would be apt to insert a '<pronoun> is'. That way it would end up 'This one is on his way.' or something similar.
I'll have that fixed shortly. There have been a few teething issues with .5 and higher due to the fact that I've started optimizing, certain systems don't quite work in the same way and I've had to adapt everything to it. As ever, some were missed so some older issues popped back up. Quite a few of the issues you've posted up have already been fixed, though. The rest I've added to my to-do list, which is now big enough to act again. xD As for the fluff breaking up flow, I agree. I think it probably is a good idea to disallow fluff in the middle of a line, since it does break up flow as you've said. I'll also look for lines that are one single question containing a comma, and leave them alone with all but the basic fluff lines. I had been meaning to split the fluff up into the more invasive grammar changing inserts and the shorter 'Hmm...' style ones, in a effort to make the inserts a bit more intelligent about how heavy handed they are on the grammar. The 'Yes' and 'No' stuff is quite outdated now, there's a lot I've been meaning to do to it. It does need a lot of improvement. When the 'lolcats' speak was first reported, I actually considered having an option to toggle lolcats mode on to preserve it. xD I may still do that, as an easter egg... When I get enough time to work it in. I'm going to pick work back up on Sunday evening. Busy busy busy. x.x Thanks again for all your reports, the addon would be far behind were it is today without everyone's help.
Last edited by Diriel : 05/10/14 at 11:58 AM.
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05/12/14, 10:12 AM | |
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This is a lovely addon. It's one of those things I didn't know I absolutely needed until I saw it. I've been taking screenshots of gramatical oddities as I've encountered them. I realize these aren't as helpful as an itemized list with original and altered text but, ah... Well, I have no excuses.
My favorite is 'This one's on this one.' I'm not sure if that's an error or just unintentional Khajiit poetry. https://drive.google.com/folderview?...3M&usp=sharing |
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05/12/14, 01:08 PM | ||
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Screenshots are just fine, thanks for putting them at a separate location too. Keeps the comments small. Annoyingly, my subscription ran out yesterday. I'll be re-subbing in a few days once I get payed. Until then it'll be next to impossible to test any changes, so I'm having a short break. |
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05/13/14, 06:38 AM | |||
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PS when I saw that line first I thought it would be so much better if it would continue as "...and you are you..."
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