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Compatibility:	Orsinium (2.2.4)
Updated:	11/03/15 03:04 PM
Created:	08/04/14 04:03 AM
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Version: 4.2

by: circonian [More]

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This started as a simple addon someone requested on the forums just to darken the chat background. I only did it because it was simple & quick. I got a few requests for small things & squeezed in time to do it when I could. But, I keep getting more. I'm glad you guys like it & I will keep it alive, but I don't have much time to add features to this.

Newest Features:

(3.1) Added Clear Buffer Slash Command -- You can now use /reloadclear to clear the buffers. This clears all chat buffers.
(3.0) Added Chat Buffers -- Chat is now buffered, up to 100 messages. You can choose to have previous chat automatically reloaded for you when you reload the ui and login. This way you wont miss any conversations when your reloading your UI.
(3.0) New SlashCommands -- /reloadchat, /reloadparty, /reloadwhisper, /reloadguild, /reloadofficer. These commands will reload ALL chat in their respective chat buffers.
(3.0) Optional Slash Command Parameter -- You can add a time parameter to the slashcommands and it will only display messages that are less than that many minutes old. For example:
/reloadwhispers 20 would reload all whipsers from the last 20 minutes into the chat window.
NOTE: The chat buffers are capped at 100 messages. Once a buffer is full it will remove the oldest message each time it saves a new one. So just because you can type /reloadchat 99999 Its probably not going to have messages that old in the buffer.

(2.9) pChat Compatibility -- Made some changes to be more compatible with pChat. Now if you run pChat the timestamps in ChatIt will automatically be disabled. Even if you turn them on they wont do anything, you'll have to use the timestamps in pChat (this is only if your running both addons). This is to provide compatibility and prevent the two addons from fighting over the games chat handler.

Features:

Multiple Chat Windows: You can now open multiple chat windows.

Chat Timestamps & Time Played: You can toggle ON/OFF chat timestamps or time played so you can see how long you've been playing or how late its getting.

Secondary Chat Backdrop: Toggle ON/OFF a secondary backdrop behind the chat window to darken it.

Secondary Chat Backdrop Alpha: You can adjust the alpha of the secondary backdrop so you can make the chat window just a little darker or a lot.

Toggle ON/OFF background fading: Can be used to prevent the background from fading.

Text Fade Delay: You can adjust the delay time before the chat text starts to fade away. You can also prevent the chat text from ever fading by setting this value to 0 (in the settings menu)

Text Fade Duration: You can adjust the amount of time it takes for the text to fade away after the delay time has passed.

Version 4.2 --

API Update No changes, just an API update

Version 4.1 --

LAM2 Missing Entry Message Fixed a minor problem causing a LAM2 error message to display in chat about a missing entry.

Version 4.0 --

Reloaded Text Time Stamps Updated the reloaded text time stamps to use the same precision as the clock (set in the settings menu under Time Stamps: 12 hr / 24 hr). For reloaded text, changes to the precision will only apply to time stamps on messages received AFTER changing the precision.

Version 3.9 --

Library Update Updated the LibAddonMenu & LibStub library

Version 3.8 -- Added Request Feature

Larger Chat Windows Increased the maximum dimensions of the chat windows to allow you to resize them larger than the games default size.

Version 3.7 --

Multiple Chat Windows Feature Is Back I managed to track down several new bugs in the game code & fix them. Multiple chat windows should be working now.
Code Checks Improved code checks to prevent the phantom window problem users encountered after the update. This was due strictly to bugs in ZOS code. I have squashed all the bugs.
Setting Changes Your settings for "Show Default Background" & "Show Extra Background" may have changed. You may need to reset them in the settings menu. All other settings should remain intact.
Auto-Dock/Transfer All Chat Container Tabs Added the ability to dock/transfer/move all chat tabs from one chat window into another chat window (all tabs at once) by dragging the 1st chat tab & dropping it into another windows tab drop area (just like you were dragging a single tab).

Transferring all chat tabs out of the primary chat container is not allowed for your safety. You must be dragging the 1st tab of a window other than the primary chat window for auto-docking to work.

Version 3.6 --

BUG FIX Due to code changes in the update the Multiple Chat window feature is not working properly. It is being temporarily removed.

If you are getting errors and/or have strange chat windows on your screen:
Install this new version

Reload the ui & it should fix the problem (but you'll still see the error),

Then reload the ui again and the errors should stop.

You can reload the ui by typing: /reloadui in the chat window.

Version 3.5 --

API # Update

Version 3.3 --

Show/Hide Default Background Added the ability to hide the default background on the chat windows. This is for those who find both background together to dark, but would like the extra border provided by the extra background.

Version 3.2 --

Bug Fix Fixed a minor bug that would cause an error if you received a chat msg before the addon finished loading.

Version 3.1--

Bug Fix Fixed a bug that caused an error when attempting to reload chat from an empty buffer.
pChat Compatibility Fix for Buffered Chat Fixed an issue causing the "buffered chat" that was reloaded to break when used with pChat.
Correct Windows The reloaded chat should now reload into the appropriate windows/tabs. This include multiple window support now.
Reload Chat Message Dividers Added an option to print divider messages
****** Reloading Chat: WHISPERS ******
To make it easier to see what chat was reloaded & what is new/old chat
****** Chat Reloaded ******

Fixed TimeStamps to work with pChat NOTE: THIS ONLY APPLIES TO THOSE USING PCHAT AND CHATIT
I do not like how this works at the moment....but at least it works. I had to pass the reloaded chat messages to the games chat system to allow it to filter & put msgs in the correct window/tabs as well as grab the correct chat category colors. But pChat is reformatting them, So at the moment with pChat (and its timestamps on) it comes out like this [19:23:05] username: [TIME_MESSAGE_WAS_RECEIVED] Chat Message
Having the double timeStamps is confusing...and the pChat timeStamp that shows will be the time the message was reloaded, not the time it was received. This is confusing, but I don't think there is anything I can do about that since its a part of pChat & libChat.
I also attempted to color TIME_MESSAGE_WAS_RECEIVED red, to make it stand out & easier to see the correct times for the reloaded chat....but pChat removes the color.

Version 3.0 --

Added Chat Buffers Chat is now temporarily logged (up to 100 msgs) and can be automatically reloaded when you log in or reload the ui. You can choose to have ALL chat msgs reloaded or choose from: party, whispers, guild, officer chats. You can set a time interval to decide how far back it will reload msgs from 1 to 10 minutes.
You can also use slash commands to go back further than 10 minutes or to display all msgs in the chat buffers. Examples & more details are in the settings menu.

Version 2.9 --

pChat Compatability If you want to use ChatIt & pChat at the same time you should now be able to do so.
If you have both addons running the timestamp feature in ChatIt WILL BE DISABLED, even if you turn it on it wont do anything.
This is to prevent the two addons from fighting over the chat handler & to provide compability between the two. pChat has a timestamp feature built in so you can use it if your using both addons.

Version 2.8 --

Updated the API Version Number

Version 2.7 --

Updated the API Version Number

Version 2.5 -- Added a Requested Feature

Background Keybind Added a keybind for the background so you can quickly toggle it on & off.

Version 2.5 --

Fixed Windows Dissappearing on Relog I changed the code that was automatically destroying windows when you reloaded your ui or relogged. Instead, in case you get phantom windows, I have added a button to the settings menu that will destroy all of your extra chat windows to fix the problem...although it really shouldn't happen, its just a precaution.

Version 2.0 --

Added Requested features for Multiple Chat Windows Turn it on then you can drag tabs off of the main window or drag them back onto the main chat windows chat tab to reanchor it.

Version 1.1 --

Added Requested features for Chat Timestamps: And I threw in time played as well, thought that might be useful to someone.

Archived Files (20)

File Name	Version	Size	Uploader	Date
Circonians ChatIt	4.1	50kB	circonian	09/22/15 03:30 PM
Circonians ChatIt	4.0	50kB	circonian	09/22/15 11:20 AM
Circonians ChatIt	3.9	49kB	circonian	09/20/15 12:26 PM
Circonians ChatIt	3.8	43kB	circonian	09/08/15 01:58 PM
Circonians ChatIt	3.7	43kB	circonian	09/04/15 06:07 PM
Circonians ChatIt	3.6	41kB	circonian	08/31/15 09:08 PM
Circonians ChatIt	3.5	41kB	circonian	08/31/15 06:56 PM
Circonians ChatIt	3.4	41kB	circonian	08/31/15 06:46 PM
Circonians ChatIt	3.3	41kB	circonian	07/15/15 01:24 PM
Circonians ChatIt	3.2	41kB	circonian	07/12/15 01:53 PM
Circonians ChatIt	3.1	41kB	circonian	04/04/15 07:46 PM
Circonians ChatIt	3.0	40kB	circonian	04/04/15 02:52 AM
Circonians ChatIt	2.9	37kB	circonian	04/03/15 06:54 PM
Circonians ChatIt	2.8	37kB	circonian	03/03/15 03:57 PM
Circonians ChatIt	2.7	33kB	circonian	11/03/14 07:09 AM
Circonians ChatIt	2.7	32kB	circonian	08/31/14 07:13 PM
Circonians ChatIt	2.5	60kB	circonian	08/08/14 11:47 PM
Circonians ChatIt	2.0	32kB	circonian	08/06/14 11:02 PM
Circonians ChatIt	1.1	27kB	circonian	08/04/14 07:40 PM
Circonians ChatIt	1.0	27kB	circonian	08/04/14 04:03 AM

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04/04/15, 08:04 PM
circonian Forum posts: 613 File comments: 804 Uploads: 27	This ONLY Applies to those using ChatIt & pChat at the same time Using ChatIt, pChat, buffered chat timestamps, & reloading chat Right now this should all work, but I don't like the way it works. If you have pChat running & PCHAT timestamps turned on the reloaded chat comes out like this: [19:23:06] userName: [7:03 PM] chat message The first timestamp is from pChat, and it is the time that the message was reloaded into the window. NOT the time you received the message. The second timestamp [7:03 PM] is from ChatIt. That is the time you received the message. I don't like it showing both timestamps, but the first is done by pChat & I don't think theres anything I can do about it. I also do not like the placement of my timestamp for reloaded chat....BUT since this ONLY applies to reloaded chat & the first timestamp is not the one you want to look at, having them in two different places at least makes it easier to know which timestamp to look at. I tried to colorize MY timestamp, to make it red so it would stand out & be easier to spot for reloaded text, but pChat changes the color back to the chat category color and it blends in with everything else. I don't think theres anything I can do about those things, but I'm still thinking about it. Last edited by circonian : 04/04/15 at 08:13 PM.

04/05/15, 04:20 AM

Majeure

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Originally Posted by circonian

Ok, this should be fixed now with reloding buffered text.

Originally Posted by circonian

Added multiple window/tab support. Items should go where they are supposed to now.

Tested ALL chat loading, and indeed it works now.

Originally Posted by circonian

It may have had something to do with the time interval setting...But I've also recently realized that pChat has a built in spam filter. If you have it turned on half or more of your messages will not reload. I may be able to ....buffer the reloading of buffered chat :P I.E. slow down how fast it gets reloaded to not trip pChats spam filter. That may help, but I don't see it solving the problem unless your willing to have the chat reloaded very very slowly. I'm looking into that.

Yes I realized this as well when playing around with the buffer, and I increased the interval to its maximum value and turned off the spam filtering in pChat just to be sure.

Originally Posted by circonian

I just thought of something...Does this only happen when your using pChat?
When testing the chat break problem using pChat I noticed that it must have some feature to minimize (move the chat window off of the screen) because when I loaded it they were all minimized...I didn't pay much attention to that though, but now I'm wondering if that has something to do with it. If you had the windows minimized (off screen where you only see that minibar) that just might cause the problem. The anchors for the windows would be off of the screen and when the game reloads, it would basically say "Hey these cant be off screen. Something must be wrong, so lets put them back in the default position."

Yeah I actually was wondering the same thing last night and played around with reloading my UI in menus and the ESC screen where my chat is hidden, but didn't run into the issue so I don't know.

I feel it's why they disabled the feature by default since they didn't care to invest more time into fixing such a niche feature. Even reloading the UI mid-animation when the 2nd chat is sliding to the side just loads it up where it should, but then there are those rare occurences where it doesn't load up right. I even tried reloading mid-combat, but nothing. :S At least it's manageable now with how rarely it happens.

Originally Posted by circonian

This ONLY Applies to those using ChatIt & pChat at the same time

Using ChatIt, pChat, buffered chat timestamps, & reloading chat
Right now this should all work, but I don't like the way it works.
If you have pChat running & PCHAT timestamps turned on the reloaded chat comes out like this:

[19:23:06] userName: [7:03 PM] chat message

The first timestamp is from pChat, and it is the time that the message was reloaded into the window. NOT the time you received the message. The second timestamp [7:03 PM] is from ChatIt. That is the time you received the message.

I don't like it showing both timestamps, but the first is done by pChat & I don't think theres anything I can do about it.
I also do not like the placement of my timestamp for reloaded chat....BUT since this ONLY applies to reloaded chat & the first timestamp is not the one you want to look at, having them in two different places at least makes it easier to know which timestamp to look at.

I tried to colorize MY timestamp, to make it red so it would stand out & be easier to spot for reloaded text, but pChat changes the color back to the chat category color and it blends in with everything else.

I don't think theres anything I can do about those things, but I'm still thinking about it.

It's maybe not ideal, but it works for now. I kinda wish the buffered timestamps would use the formatting options I picked in the ChatIt options "Clock", "Colons", and "24 hr" though, even if they're otherwise disabled since I have everything else in that format as well and we don't use A.M. and P.M. around here. ^^

Maybe you could ask the pChat author if there's some kind of setup you could go by, like if pChat is loaded you pass in a date object with the message to whatever function and pChat uses that for its timestamp or so, I'm not too sure what's feasible with the API.

Oh btw, I had a thought of how to make best use of the new chat background from ChatIt, if you look at any of my previous screenshots you might notice it looks kinda odd with the tab titles sticking outside the box when there's a perfectly good titlebar right there on the top where the social counters are, this is especially apparent with the additional containers that don't even have those social icons.

Maybe if there was a sub-option for the extra background in ChatIt to bump the tabs down a level, and then move those social icons to the right side of the chat next to the tab options icon, that'd make the chat look much more compact with its new background and borders. Or perhaps instead to move the social icons where the tabs normally are in-case people have many tabs to take up the whole bar, so the tabs and social icons practically switch places. Optionally they could even be replaced by the minimized chat versions that are vertical and placed on either side. Whatever works.

Just some thoughts. ^^ I do like the new bordered chat windows.

Last edited by Majeure : 04/05/15 at 04:23 AM.

04/05/15, 05:32 AM

circonian

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Originally Posted by Majeure

I didn't think of that. I'll add it to the list to change it, that wont take much work.

Originally Posted by Majeure

Maybe you could ask the pChat author if there's some kind of setup you could go by, like if pChat is loaded you pass in a date object with the message to whatever function and pChat uses that for its timestamp or so, I'm not too sure what's feasible with the API.

The problem is the messages go through the game to get formatted properly and lots of other stuff then comes back to the addons, so theres really no way for me to tell pChat "hey this is my message treat it differently".

The pChat authors already offered to help & make changes to improve compatibility between the two addons, but I don't want him to have to make changes if I can think of a way around it and I probably can, just got to think about it for a while.

Last edited by circonian : 04/05/15 at 05:33 AM.

04/30/15, 07:49 PM
TribeofOne Forum posts: 41 File comments: 50 Uploads: 0	would it be possible to add opacity?/transparency? control for each additional chat windows? like have one dark and one clear etc thanks

05/01/15, 12:15 AM

circonian

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Originally Posted by TribeofOne

would it be possible to add opacity?/transparency? control for each additional chat windows? like have one dark and one clear etc

thanks

No, or well it would be very difficult. Since you could have any number of multiple chat windows & the settings menu is not dynamic (would have to be a set number of settings in there) there would be no reasonable way to add a setting for every window people might create. The setting could be tied to the window itself, with a button on the window to allow you to change the transparency, but that opens up more problems. The window placement, the tabs you have, which tabs show what chat, everything is saved & controlled by the game. When the game is closed or reloaded all of the chat windows are destroyed and recreated on load.

Even if I saved the transparency data (settings) for each window when the windows are recreated they may have new names/id's. Since it is all handled by the game there is no unique way to tell the windows apart (so you know which transparency to apply to each window).

07/10/15, 09:36 AM
Majeure Forum posts: 0 File comments: 121 Uploads: 0	Heya @circonian, I took a break for a while and ever since I got back I've been getting this error as of late, when reloading my UI or so with all options under "CHAT BUFFER" turned OFF. Code: user:/AddOns/ChatIt/ChatIt.lua:269: attempt to index a nil value stack traceback: user:/AddOns/ChatIt/ChatIt.lua:269: in function 'OnChatReceived' Also as a request, it'd be nice to have a bit more control over the background settings, like we can set the alpha of the extra background, but not the default one's ACTIVE alpha. This makes it so that adding enough alpha to the extra background will also make the chat background so black you can't see anything through it because it's competing with the default background. Wykkyd's Enhanced Chat did something like disable the default background completely when using his background options, but that didn't work with multiple chat windows at all while the extra background on ChatIt does. So what I'd like to do is, dim the default background completely if possible, and only show the extra background which has a more solid background color with borders. This way I'll get the nice framing from the extra background, with a solid background color that's not too intense, all the while without seeing any of the ugly splatter from the default background, if you get me. I know we can already control the default chat alpha using the Social menu settings, but that's only when the chat has faded and I'm using the option in ChatIt to never fade because I don't want my chats popping in and out of focus. TL;DR i can haz option to disable/control default background's alpha? Just some thoughts, don't have to act on them, but I think this would be a welcome addition imo. Last edited by Majeure : 07/10/15 at 09:36 AM.

07/10/15, 02:24 PM

circonian

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Originally Posted by Majeure

Heya @circonian,

I took a break for a while and ever since I got back I've been getting this error as of late, when reloading my UI or so with all options under "CHAT BUFFER" turned OFF.

Code:

user:/AddOns/ChatIt/ChatIt.lua:269: attempt to index a nil value
stack traceback:
	user:/AddOns/ChatIt/ChatIt.lua:269: in function 'OnChatReceived'

Theres very little code on this line. Theres only 2 variables both of which are constants and therefore should never be able to be nil.
The only thing I can think of is if your saved variables got messed up somehow. Try typing the following slash command in the chat window:

Lua Code:

/reloadclear

That will clear the chat buffer tables & recreate them, it will only effect the saved buffered chat. If that doesn't work though let me know.

Originally Posted by Majeure

Also as a request, it'd be nice to have a bit more control over the background settings, like we can set the alpha of the extra background, but not the default one's ACTIVE alpha.

There is a setting to adjust the "extra" backgrounds alpha.
I'm not sure what you mean by "default one's ACTIVE alpha".
If you mean to individually set different background alphas for different chat windows, then no its not possible. All of the chat windows are wiped & recreated by the game when you login & reload. There is no way to tell which window is which to keep the appropriate alpha values assigned to the correct windows, so they all have to be the same.

Originally Posted by Majeure

This makes it so that adding enough alpha to the extra background will also make the chat background so black you can't see anything through it because it's competing with the default background.

Yes, overlapping them helps make the background even darker. With the extra background alpha turned up it is difficult to see through it, which was the purpose of that feature because it makes the text a lot easier to read which was the idea. But you can turn down the "extra" background alpha if you find it to dark.

Originally Posted by Majeure

TL;DR i can haz option to disable/control default background's alpha?

To adjust the default background's alpha, probably not. The purpose of that extra background is only to make it darker so the text is easier to read. Turning around and adjusting the default background alpha to lighten it back up just defeats the purpose AND it would be to much work.

But, to disable it completely so the entire window is not so dark, but you can keep the frame border solid...that might not take to much. Its been a long time since I wrote this addon. I'll have to take a look at it.

Last edited by circonian : 07/10/15 at 02:25 PM.

07/10/15, 03:05 PM

Majeure

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Originally Posted by circonian

Lua Code:

/reloadclear

That will clear the chat buffer tables & recreate them, it will only effect the saved buffered chat. If that doesn't work though let me know.

Cool, I've done this now and got the feedback that my chat buffers were cleared. I'll let you know if I get the error again in the future.

Edit: I got the error again from a /reloadui in Cyrodiil. I've re-run the command and re-installed the addon and I'm gonna redo all the saved variables next.

Code:

user:/AddOns/ChatIt/ChatIt.lua:269: attempt to index a nil value
stack traceback:
	user:/AddOns/ChatIt/ChatIt.lua:269: in function 'OnChatReceived'

Originally Posted by circonian

I'm not sure what you mean by "default one's ACTIVE alpha".

Yes, overlapping them helps make the background even darker ... But you can turn down the "extra" background alpha if you find it to dark.

But, to disable it completely so the entire window is not so dark, but you can keep the frame border solid...that might not take to much. Its been a long time since I wrote this addon. I'll have to take a look at it.

Yes this is what I meant, I'd like to completely disable the DEFAULT background that ALL the chat windows have, by default.

I don't need any individual control for each window, in fact I want them to be identical which is why this addon is so great for styling multiple chat windows, just I prefer the extra background option over the normal background, but I don't want my chat background completely black. I don't like the splattered look of the default background, I want the borders and static color that the extra background provides, without the default background there.

However if I simply make the EXTRA background more transparent by tweaking the alpha setting that's already there, then the DEFAULT background's ugly splattery edges will become more apparent, and the border added by the EXTRA background fades away too, which I definitely don't want.

If you do get around to doing this, it might also be nice to add a color picker for the extra background and borders too if at all possible, so I can get the exact style I want.

Last edited by Majeure : 07/12/15 at 12:27 PM.

07/12/15, 02:00 PM

circonian

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Originally Posted by Majeure

Edit: I got the error again from a /reloadui in Cyrodiil. I've re-run the command and re-installed the addon and I'm gonna redo all the saved variables next.

Ah, it happened during /reloadui that helps a lot, I know what it is now. I posted a new update it should be fixed.

As for your other request, I didn't add it because your the only one who asked for it & I'm not sure if you would even still want it. The "splatter" in the background that you mentioned you do not like is actually from the "extra" background that ChatIt adds. So if you remove the default background that splatter effect actually stands out even more.

The only way to get rid of the splatter effect would be to create a whole new background texture & I'm no good at creating textures. Even if I switched the background texture to some other texture built into the game, then you would loose the nice looking borders, they are part of the background texture.

Last edited by circonian : 07/12/15 at 02:01 PM.

07/13/15, 12:00 AM

Majeure

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Originally Posted by circonian

Ah, it happened during /reloadui that helps a lot, I know what it is now. I posted a new update it should be fixed.

Ah good stuff.

Originally Posted by circonian

As for your other request, I didn't add it because your the only one who asked for it & I'm not sure if you would even still want it. The "splatter" in the background that you mentioned you do not like is actually from the "extra" background that ChatIt adds. So if you remove the default background that splatter effect actually stands out even more.

Are you sure? The splatter I'm talking about is the kind of painted edges that all the ZOS elements tend to have, like the default latency/fps indicator. If I use the extra background at 100% alpha, I get a solid black background with solid borders.

Originally Posted by circonian

The only way to get rid of the splatter effect would be to create a whole new background texture & I'm no good at creating textures. Even if I switched the background texture to some other texture built into the game, then you would loose the nice looking borders, they are part of the background texture.

Hmm I see, that's unfortunate. I do like how Wykkyd's Enhanced Chat replaced the background of the default chat container with a more "simple" background, you could even set the color iirc, but it didn't work for multiple windows so I couldn't use that and the addon was causing some positioning issues with multiple windows as well, so I had to get rid of it entirely.

07/13/15, 12:32 PM

circonian

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Originally Posted by Majeure

conian]As for your other request, I didn't add it because your the only one who asked for it & I'm not sure if you would even still want it. The "splatter" in the background that you mentioned you do not like is actually from the "extra" background that ChatIt adds. So if you remove the default background that splatter effect actually stands out even more.[/quote.

Well there is the fuzzy edge, which is around the outside edges of the default background. But there is also a splatter effect on the extra background. As a temporary test try typing this into chat:

Lua Code:

/script ZO_ChatWindowBg:SetHidden(true)

That will hide the default background, like your asking. It only does it for the main chat window, its just a test so you can see what I'm talking about.

07/14/15, 08:16 AM

Majeure

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Originally Posted by circonian

Well there is the fuzzy edge, which is around the outside edges of the default background. But there is also a splatter effect on the extra background. As a temporary test try typing this into chat:

Lua Code:

/script ZO_ChatWindowBg:SetHidden(true)

That will hide the default background, like your asking. It only does it for the main chat window, its just a test so you can see what I'm talking about.

Okay, so by the "splattery" thing I meant the "fuzzy edge" thing, after running this code it looks just how I wanted, only as you said it doesn't work on the second window. Would be great to have an option in ChatIt to turn ON so it'd run this for all the containers.

Now I just wish I could control the border transparency separately from the background, but it's quite fine for me with around 60% alpha on the extra background, with no default background, so it's quite alright as it is on that front, so long as I can hide the default background.

And of course with the borders, I still wish we could move the tab titles INSIDE the borders, by moving like the mail, friends, and notifications indicators to the right or so, like how some other addons add extra things to the right of the default chat containerm, but still inside it (eg. Notebooks.) So the chat boxes would be entirely self contained entities... but maybe I ask too much, being spoiled by WoW addons like ElvUI. It's all up to you, of course.

Edit: Seems pChat added an option to control the default background alpha in a recent update, but once again, like with most other chatbox affecting addons (besides ChatIt) it only works for the main chat container.

Last edited by Majeure : 07/14/15 at 08:26 AM.

07/14/15, 11:07 AM
Wandamey Guest Join Date: Not Yet Forum posts: 0 File comments: 0 Uploads: 0	Not sure what you two... are talking about exactly, but i've worked with these a bit (since it seems that i'm unable to have a default backdrop working ) so defaut chat Windows backdrop looks like this : with no "extra texture" on it. (i suppose this is the fuzzy one) (stolen from TraitBuddy, and reused where i can) control:SetEdgeTexture("EsoUI/Art/ChatWindow/chat_BG_edge.dds", 512, 512, 32) width, height, "padding"? control:SetCenterTexture("EsoUI/Art/ChatWindow/chat_BG_center.dds") control:SetInsets (32,32,-32,-32) (32 or maybe 16 or idk, but it's 2^x for each values) the windows of this addon, if i believe the picture, use the same bd than the tooltips, it's an edge (that looks like shiny brand new metal), a blackish center and an extra texture : munge_overlay that is transparent for the most part and make the center AND the edges look a bit dirty (probably what "splatter" means?) knowing that, reading you two is a bit confusing. but i'll put this on my poor English for the most part. (and nobody saw how i innocently showed how to reproduce the default chat window) Last edited by : 07/14/15 at 11:10 AM.

07/15/15, 12:47 PM

circonian

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Re: Re: Not sure what you two...

Originally Posted by Wandamey

so defaut chat Windows backdrop looks like this : with no "extra texture" on it. (i suppose this is the fuzzy one)
....(probably what "splatter" means?)

Yes I can see where all of that talk about fuzzy & splatter would be confusing. I should have chose better words or been more specific for non-English speakers.
When I said fuzzy what I meant was that the edge of the default backdrop becomes more transparent (lighter, easier to see through) as it gets closer to the edge of the texture.

When I mentioned the splatter on the "extra" background what I meant was that it has some spots/areas that are less transparent (darker, harder to see through) than the rest of the background. To me it kind of looks like something was splattered...or maybe dripped would make more sense, like little drops of water...and those areas are darker than the rest of the background. There are not very many of them though and since it overlaps the default background they are very hard to see. I only brought it up because of the request to hide the default background, doing that makes those spots a lot easier to see.

Originally Posted by Wandamey

(stolen from TraitBuddy, and reused where i can)
control:SetEdgeTexture("EsoUI/Art/ChatWindow/chat_BG_edge.dds", 512, 512, 32) width, height, "padding"?
control:SetCenterTexture("EsoUI/Art/ChatWindow/chat_BG_center.dds")
control:SetInsets (32,32,-32,-32)
(32 or maybe 16 or idk, but it's 2^x for each values)

Default Chat Background:

Lua Code:

-- Its 256, 256, 32: edgeFileWidth, edgeFileHeight, edgeSize
control:SetEdgeTexture("EsoUI/Art/ChatWindow/chat_BG_edge.dds", 256, 256, 32)

XML Code for the games default chat background:

xml Code:

<Backdrop name="$(parent)Bg" integralWrapping="true">
    <Anchor point="TOPLEFT" offsetX="-8" offsetY="-6"/>
    <Anchor point="BOTTOMRIGHT" offsetX="4" offsetY="4"/>
 
    <Edge file="EsoUI/Art/ChatWindow/chat_BG_edge.dds" edgeFileWidth="256" edgeFileHeight="256" edgeSize="32"/>
    <Center file="EsoUI/Art/ChatWindow/chat_BG_center.dds" />
    <Insets left="32" top="32" right="-32" bottom="-32" />
</Backdrop>

Originally Posted by Wandamey

the windows of this addon, if i believe the picture, use the same bd than the tooltips, it's an edge (that looks like shiny brand new metal), a blackish center and an extra texture : munge_overlay that is transparent for the most part

Yes the extra background that this chat adds is what you described. It is the games default backdrop called: ZO_DefaultBackdrop

xml Code:

<Backdrop name="ZO_DefaultBackdrop" virtual="true">
    <Anchor point="TOPLEFT" offsetX="-8" offsetY="-8" />
    <Anchor point="BOTTOMRIGHT" offsetX="8" offsetY="8" />
 
    <Edge file="EsoUI/Art/Tooltips/UI-Border.dds" edgeFileWidth="128" edgeFileHeight="16" />
    <Center file="EsoUI/Art/Tooltips/UI-TooltipCenter.dds" />
    <Insets left="16" top="16" right="-16" bottom="-16" />
 
    <Controls>
        <Texture name="$(parent)MungeOverlay" textureFile="EsoUI/Art/Tooltips/munge_overlay.dds" addressMode="WRAP">
            <AnchorFill />
        </Texture>
    </Controls>
</Backdrop>

Last edited by circonian : 07/15/15 at 12:54 PM.

07/15/15, 01:25 PM
circonian Forum posts: 613 File comments: 804 Uploads: 27	Default Chat Background Added the ability to hide the default background of all chat windows. This is for those who find having both backgrounds is to dark, but would like to keep the extra background turned on for its solid border. Posted Version 3.3 Last edited by circonian : 07/15/15 at 01:25 PM.

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