Also someone mentioned that your database is being tainted with false information to manipulate prices.

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using tamrieltradecentre.com is getting crazy .. now we have to verify series of 12 captchas every page we open

No location could mean 2 things.

1. Caused by an ages old ZOS bug where your guild info says you have no trader hired even though you do
2. Someone was posting on the website manually and did not specify a location.

Sorry missed forgot to check this thread for a while. Next time it happens plz drop me an email and I can ban the person easily

Sorry but the captcha is required to block off bots from abusing TTC's server resource.

The server got brought down several times before and thats why I had to introduce captcha wall to keep it alive.

The captcha is provided by Google and has two components:

1. It has a hidden test which estimates how likely you are a bot with machine learning algorithm.
2. If the first test says you are likely a bot then the second level captcha system will kick in.

There are few things you can do to reduce the likelihood of being flagged as bot for the 1st test
1. Do NOT disable cookie. Google will need to have some way to keep track of the machine learning progress. If you disable cookie then they will see you as a new user every time. And if all the requests coming from your IP are all new users then it would look super suspicious.
2. Do NOT use browser addons which would interfere w/ Google's captcha service. (for example ad blocker which attempts to block all Google's service including captcha)
3. Do not use any automation software/addon to query TTC such as a custom web client or an auto refresher.
4. Do not wait too long to solve the captcha
5. Try not to use VPN as it will greatly increase your chance of being identified as bot if someone is botting using the same VPN software as you

And just one tip. If you are opening up several windows at once. You only have to solve captcha on one window and refresh the rest.

I see all the feedback here felt on completely deaf ears.
The super annoying popup ads are still there.
What an awesome feature to reset all your search settings when you just want to open the website in a new tab to look for something else.

:confused:
If you open a new tab it will show the initial website so how should it keep the search settings in a new tab?

Or did you open it by copying the other tab's URL? e.g. https://eu.tamrieltradecentre.com/pc...on%C3%BCberzug
Works for me, it will search for the same item then.

Also works wih a detailed search URL and copy that:
https://eu.tamrieltradecentre.com/pc...z&LevelMin=210

If you have TTC opened with some search results, right click on the search link at the top left corner of the page and click on "open in new tab", AND at that moment trigger that popup ad (that contrary to what the TTC author claimed triggers WAY more often than in 1% of cases), new tab does not open, you get that popup ad instead, and the search results are reset upon closing it.

I was able to get the popup once in 20 tries now, and I right clicked and choose to open a new tab and left clicked it.
Only left clicking triggered it for me, so this is just random I'd say.
Compared to how many times I need to search this 1time advertisement was okay for me. Maybe it depends on used browser, location, plugins etc. so yeah, it could show more often for others.

But you are right: As I closed the add my current search results at the shown tab were reset all of sudden.
And this really is disturbing.

But pressing "back" on the tab to get last shown page worked for me as a workaround.

Popup ads shouldn't exist in the first place... like what year is this, 2001? No thank you, damnit.

Some of those popup adds really annoy, yes.
Most are shown integrated into the website and I'm fine with it.

Well, but the solution is easy:

Either add blocker
Or like the addon dev asked for support in his very first post here at the thread:

I have explained multiple times already. Pop up/full screen ad only shows up on a low probability. Usually less than 1 time/day for regular users. (The more you use the more you will run into obviously)

Its either full screen ad on low probability or one more ad on the page consistently. I know you probably going to say no to both. But what other options do I have?

I know for a fact these popups show up in at least 10% of the cases for me. Most certainly WAY above what you claim.

And honestly, as much as I like TTC and think the website does unmeasurable service to the community, if you can't make it work with several ads on every page and obnoxious ones on top of thatm then maybe... <insert annoyed remark about ads that are too much>

Also see my compaint about opening another instance of the page and having everything reset.

I Understand your point of view and I'm not trying to interject anything into that part of the conversation.

What I thought I might point out is from a developer standpoint. I don't do enough Web development to know for sure but I would think Web browsers have properties that are specific to each window.

So as you mentioned you're opening a completely new instance of the window and therefore you see the pop up.

While I feel that the feedback you're giving is valid there really may not be a way to program that so that the browser copies properties over from the 1st window so that you don't see this add again.

That's a fair point, but even then I strongly believe the popup ads show up way often than in 1% of cases even without opening new instances (that's not something I do on regular basis, mind you).

Yes, that maybe but you should not focus on 1% vs 10% here any longer. As long as it's not 30% or more it should be acceptable for a free service, isn't it?

The author already explained why he had to do that step, and what the other steps would have been.
He cannot make it acceptable for all as its his bare money that get's lost there, which we need to accept.

So you should focus on yur descired outcome now and decide what your desired result will be:

a) You (and others) go on ranting about it w/o paying and the total service will be shut down in the end
b) You pay and help and the adds are gone for you
c) You use it with the adds and click them away as they appear (Pressing the back button on the browser navigation should bring you back to where you were before the add came up and so your search that you tried to open should be repeatable that way. If not: Maybe provide 1 example to the author so he can rebuild it and fix it, if possible).
d) You do not use the service anymore

Well a new instance is called new instance for a reason. The best way would be to just click on the close button on the button right of the ad or hit the x button.

If google arent lying about the impression count (which i cannot show) then I can confirm its exactly 1% of the time. From my own observation new visitors have higher chance of running into it. So if you are blocking the cookie or constantly deleting it then it will increase your chance.

I tried that X/close button at the popup add and it sent me back to a blank search page, so I can confirm the "issue" that closing the popup add will forget your current search criteria.
This does not work, or not as you think it should ;)

But I was able to click "back" on my browser and it send me back to my last entered search criteria, you just need to say "yes resend the data to the server" and it will redo the search then (tested with Edge browser).

So after you hit the close button on the ad it sends you to a search page with no query param? Is it happening with new tab or current tab?

As I was able to use the back browser button it should have been the same tab. I think it happened before a new search results tab was opened, not sure anymore.

I'll try to rebuild it and provide more info (hope the pop-up add will show).

I tried for like > 50 times and couldn't get the pop up to show. Not sure how you guys are seeing it so often. If its same tab only then i might have a theory on why and how to fix it.

I tried 2 days to get the popup too and it just won't show anymore for me:confused:

Webpage Search broken ???
 

Hi...

I just went to the TTC webpage and tried to search for "" Claw-Dance Acolyte "". But the page said - no results found :confused::confused::confused: .?! Ingame alot of those items are being sold.

Could it be that something is broken?


Best regards
De-chan

Works fine for me?
PC, NA or EU server, language EN, enter search term "claw dance" or "claw-dance" or similar

Thx Baertram for testing.

Idk why, but after I cleared my temp-files and cookies it now does work for me again :eek:...


Best regards
De-chan

Hi I am new here on the forums I have been paying to use TTC for over a year now, I've set up an automatic payment throgh my bank I 've had a stroke a month agoand because of that am now disabled those adds I could live with but the captcha is making it the s:(troke affected my vision and I fail the captcha constantlyI find it un ridicilous that I pay for an add freeexperience with adds regardless and on top of that have to deal with the captcha which is failing endlessly I am a high volume trader and need to check prices often

Sorry to read that about your stroke :(
I'm not responsible for the TTC website but just want to answer on the captcha:
I personally never saw any captcha at the website so far so maybe it's something for the login authentification that you get if you pay?

Maybe cyxui can change that to a "bigger" visual way, or add some audio auth so one can hear the text to type.

Sorry to hear about the stroke and thanks for being a paid member.

The server got brought down several times by people spamming the server none stop. I had to introduce the captcha wall to keep it alive.

1. It has a hidden test which estimates how likely you are a bot with machine learning algorithm.
2. If the first test says you are likely a bot then the second level captcha system will kick in.

There are few things you can do to reduce the likelihood of being flagged as bot for the 1st test
1. Do NOT disable cookie. Google will need to have some way to keep track of the machine learning progress. If you disable cookie then they will see you as a new user every time. And if all the requests coming from your IP are all new users then it would look super suspicious.
2. Do NOT use browser addons which would interfere w/ Google's captcha service. (for example ad blocker which attempts to block all Google's service including captcha). Since you are already a paid member you can just go to account settings and turn on the disable ads option.
3. Do not use any automation software/addon to query TTC such as a custom web client or an auto refresher. Auto refresher is the most common cause that triggers captcha
4. Do not wait too long to solve the captcha
5. Try not to use VPN as it will greatly increase your chance of being identified as bot if someone is botting using the same VPN software as you

Note that your "bot score" will not drop immediate. But it should start to recover after a week or two's usage.

Server seems to be down... :-(

Yep :(

Plugin hasn't been able to pull the price table since 11:36 BST for me.

Came here hoping for news...

Should be up now. Cause yet to be confirmed

Thanks for the heads up :)

It is up! \o/

Still down for me. It says the site can't be reached.

Same for me


Upd. Works fine now

yay! up for me now! <3

Server seems to be down. The website is listening to file uploads, but quite a few of us are getting

This site can’t be reachedThe connection was reset.
Try:

Checking the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
Running Windows Network Diagnostics
ERR_CONNECTION_RESET

For me it is working fine (again), EU and NA.
client.exe updates properly too,.

So then there's something potentially internet related?

It's not my AV, I added an exception for the domain and it still throws out that the conneciton was aborted.

The client.exe app does update, but I can't get into the site. Tried this on multiple PCs, one from work that uses an entirely different DNS server.

And my phone, when off my wifi network has the same problem.

I've also turned my ad-block(s) off. Doesn't affect it.
I pay a subscription to not get ads anyway.

I've also used Firefox, which I do not install ad-blocks on, for these kinds of tests.

Maybe your country is blocking the access then, or whatever does it.
Do you get any cloudflare website or just "cannot load"?

I tried with 3 browsers, phone network, phone wlan (mine, open other), with VPN and without. Works okay.
https://us.tamrieltradecentre.com/pc/Trade
https://eu.tamrieltradecentre.com/pc/Trade

Swithcign language to En does not work somehow, but using the direct link does it:
https://us.tamrieltradecentre.com/pc/Trade?lang=en-EN
https://eu.tamrieltradecentre.com/pc/Trade?lang=en-EN

is it still an issue or its fixed?

TTC Client/add on not updating my listings on the TTC website
 

Hello,

I have both the add on, and the client installed on my computer. The client starts automatically when I start my PC.

However when I do a /reloadui command on tESO, my listing don't come up on the website.

I've also tried manually uploading the "TamrielTradeCentre.lua" on the website. And I still don't see my listing uploaded on the website.

Two months ago, when I would do so, the TTC website would reflect inmediately my listings.

Any idea why this might be happening? and how to fix it?

Does your file /live/SavedVariables/TamrielTradeCenter.lua does get a "last changed" date and time according to the reloadui?

If not something blocks access to it. Check your antivirus tools etc. if they block access to your documents folder and especially the live/SavedVariables folder.

Yes it does, I even tried deleting it and running the /reloadui. It does create a new TamrielTradeCenter.lua once I run the command on tESO.

If you delete it you loose your settings (if you were logged out it will reset to defaults then) so you need to enable the item listing at the TTC settings menu ingame again!
If you were logged in it will be rebuild from ingame saved settings at the moment you did the reloadui (settings that were active ingame at that time, before the reloadui will be taken).

I somehow got weird behavor with TTC client myself. It lists all kind of very old item listings for me in the client as I start the client (ESO game not started yet).
I sold / listed these items months ago!
But somehow it collects that info now...

I guess we should report that at the addon comments:
https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info....html#comments

Other reported issues there too already.

I deleted the file while loged in, so all settings remained. I just double check and everything is enable and still don't see my listingon the website. I'm wondering if I'm somehow baned or block from the website, 'cuz my friend's listing do appear immediately.

At this point i'm totally clueless on what to do.


Regarding those old listing you were experiencing, looks like that was bug, all my friends had the same issue, but it's now fix after updating the add on on Minion.

If you stay logged in you cannot reset it fix saved data properly! Try to logout, rename the SavedVariable file, start the TTC client afterwards and let it download the prices.
Afterwards login and setup it new ingame.

Maybe this works to fix the listings, if it's SavedVariables related.

Sadly for me, my listings still don't come up on the website :'C

I keep getting a lot of captchas when I try to search for stuff and then I'm just blocked out of the TTC site. This just started happening for about a week now but I used to use the site everyday with no problems. I have to complete about a dozen captchas then I get a popup that says:

"Try again later
Your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now. For more details visit our help page."

The pricecheck works but not the listings search.

A guild member told me they have the same issue and to just refresh the page but that's not working.

Are you using any VPN software to connect to the internet? Captachs often occur if your IP address is the one of a known VPN/bot.

if you reset your saved var file you need to head to bank and click on the listing tab manually or else TTC doesn't know what you currently have listed

The captcha is provided by Google and has two components:

1. It has a hidden test which estimates how likely you are a bot with machine learning algorithm.
2. If the first test says you are likely a bot then the second level captcha system will kick in.

There are few things you can do to reduce the likelihood of being flagged as bot for the 1st test
1. Do NOT disable cookie. Google will need to have some way to keep track of the machine learning progress. If you disable cookie then they will see you as a new user every time. And if all the requests coming from your IP are all new users then it would look super suspicious.
2. Do NOT use browser addons which would interfere w/ Google's captcha service. (for example ad blocker which attempts to block all Google's service including captcha)
3. Do not use any automation software/addon to query TTC such as a custom web client or an auto refresher.
4. Do not wait too long to solve the captcha
5. Try not to use VPN as it will greatly increase your chance of being identified as bot if someone is botting using the same VPN software as you

And just one tip. If you are opening up several windows at once. You only have to solve captcha on one window and refresh the rest.

I just remembered the one thing that changed. I started using CloudFlare's DNS servers instead of Google's. When I switched back to Google, the TTC site is working again. Google sucks.

I don't think DNS will affect anything. But as long as it works i guess.

I dunno what I did, but I see my listings now after a couple months! I'm soooo happy <3

Thank you all for your workarounds and responses <3 <3 <3

Selling Data
 

I realize you use Google 'shtuff' on your site, and that's fine, since there's nowhere you can away from Google. But your privacy policy doesn't say anything about what you do with the data you collect. With your application running on our computers 24/7, that's an issue that needs some attention.


From your other posts, I'm fairly sure you would consider selling user data out of bounds, but I'd like to hear it plain and straight from you. And maybe think about adding wording to that effect to your Privacy Policy?


Thank you for your time and work.

I Hope the website will ever get a new look. The current website looks horrible and is slow.

Pretty sure i have already listed out the 'personal' data that the site ever collects. your email address and in game uid when you register. If you don't register then we don't actively collect anything besides Google.

the application only collects data collected by the addon. That means the only thing it has access to will be in game data. The only 'personal' data i can think of will be your UID.

As for the Google analytics part: Google doesnt give us any user specific data. All it provides is an aggregation. I.E. no raw personal data involved. You will need to read up on Google's privacy policy for what Google will do with the raw data. Pretty sure it is very well explained.

And no i never mentioned anything regarding selling personal data. The closest thing would be the paid access to a real time search api. Thats an idea that I am not willing to consider unless situation got worse and it becomes the last resort to keep the site alive. Even then it is only the listing data that is publicly available. No personal data is involved.

Mind elaborate a bit more on the slow part?

The recaptcha loop is back. I'm logged in to Google and your site but I keep getting stopped by recaptcha. I'm not using any ad blockers. I love your site and your addon but this is making me use ESO trading hub more and more.