[Search / Request] Character Customization

[Atmospheric]

Hello.
I am looking for addon that will let me save/load character customization during creation.
Preferably with many slots (20?), don't see limitations are reasonable here.
Maybe have export file, which can be shared to friend. (I have read what addons can't do, and there was something about importing, but I don't think importing values for sliders when creation is an issue in this case)
example: for being a twin sibling

I am willing to learn and do it myself, but I need directions. I know nothing about addon making. I tried "[PC] Basic Addon Creation" tutorial on reddit but this looks a lot more advanced. I can make it work tho, if i can find enough example addons that use similar features.

I don't know if it's worth doing triangle selection or palettes with addon, but would be nice.

Here is how I see it working:
On character selection screen I click "Create Character" button. There will be additional button for this addon. On click a popup window shows, where I can select my previously saved presets, load them, or save current settings as a preset. Here is silly visualization i did in paint

So far I found this (i dont know what its called): https://github.com/esoui/esoui/tree/...haractercreate Where are many functions.
and I made simple values on sliders from game

[Race]
	Sex
		Male / Female
	Alliance
		The Daggerfall Covenant / The Aldmeri Dominion / The Ebonheart Pact
	Race
		Breton / Orc / Redguard / High Elf / Wood Elf / Khajiit / Argonian / Dark Elf / Nord / Imperial
[Class]
	Dragonknight / Sorcerer / Nightblade / Templar / Warden / Necromancer / Arcanist
[Body]
	Body Type
		Muscular / Thin / Large 
			*Triangle 0-1 / 0-1 / 0-1
		Height
			0-15
	Features
		Skin Color
			*Palette 10x2
		Body Marking
			0-23
	Upper Body
		Torso Size
			0-15
		Chest Size
			0-15
		Gut Size
			0-15
		Waist Size
			0-15
		Arm Size
			0-15
		Hand Size
			0-15
	Lower Body
		Hip Size
			0-15
		Posterior Dimensions
			0-15
		Leg Size
			0-15
		Foot Size
			0-15
[Face]
	Face Type
		Heroic / Angular / Soft
			*Triangle 0-1 / 0-1 / 0-1
	Voice
		A-H
			*Dropdown A / B / C / D / E / F / G / H
	Hair
		Hair Style
			0-23
		Hair Color
			*Palette 10x2
	Features
		Age
			0-6
		Adornment
			0-23
		Head Marking
			0-23
	Face
		Forehead Slope
			0-15
		Cheekbone Size
			0-15
		Cheekbone Height
			0-15
		Jaw Size
			0-15
		Chin Size
			0-15
		Chin Height
			0-15
		Neck Size
			0-15
	Eyes
		Eye Color
			*Palette 10x2
		Eye Size
			0-15
		Eye Angle
			0-15
		Eye Separation
			0-15
		Eye Height
			0-15
		Eye Squint
			0-15
	Brow
		Eyebrows
			0-19
		Eyebrow Height
			0-15
		Eyebrow Skew
			0-15
		Eyebrow Depth
			0-15
	Nose
		Nose Shape
			0-15
		Nose Height
			0-15
		Nose Width
			0-15
		Nose Length
			0-15
	Mouth
		Mouth Height
			0-15
		Mouth Curve
			0-15
		Miuth Fullness
			0-15
	Ears
		Ear Size
			0-15
		Ear Rotation
			0-15
		Ear Height
			0-15
		Ear Tip Flare	
			0-15

But problem is as I said I have no idea how to "glue" all this info together to make an addon. Can be really simplistic.

[Atmospheric]

[DakJaniels]

Hello, add-ons can't be used until you are in the game world, so no character create addons.

[Atmospheric]

Originally Posted by DakJaniels Hello, add-ons can't be used until you are in the game world, so no character create addons.

Is that a ToS rule or just impossible to implement?

[Baertram]

Not sure about the TOs but definately non accessible/non implementable (technically impossible -> restricted).

It's also stated here in the "Please read BEFORE requesting..." -> below the lines "What addons cannot, and must not do" sticky thread:

-> Directly at point 1.

What addons cannot do 1. Change anything prior to or at the character selection screen, pre-ingame code, character creation or at/during loading screens, or in the crown store/market, at the scying UI, at the Tribute game

So unfortunately you invested your time for nothing

[Atmospheric]

Yes, I did read that, but I thought it would not be a "problem" because it's harmless feature for an addon. Did not think it was because of impossible due to technical reasons.

[Atmospheric]

Originally Posted by Baertram Not sure about the TOs but definately non accessible/non implementable (technically impossible -> restricted).

I am not arguing about this, I just want to know why is it impossible?

[Baertram]

Because addons can't access that, ZOs blocked it technically and we cannot do anything prior to the ingame world as the sticky threads says.

If you want technical details, ask ZOs please. We do not have any except the fact it simply does not work by design.

I guess the game will simply not load any addons prior to the ingame world so no matter what you do it does not effect the code before that. And some code is protected so overwriting it later does neither work.

[Atmospheric]

Thank you.

Any idea what can I do? I was thinking maybe make autohotkey script. It sounds sketchy but nothing illegal is being done, just a saved preset customization applied to character

[Baertram]

Whatever you try will most likely have to hack into Eso and would be against the TOS.
Better ask ZOs if they can add something and if not, what is allowed to do /use as external tools.

[Calamath]

Hi Atmospheric.
The inability to save or profile settings during the avatar creation process makes it difficult to enjoy spending long hours creating avatars for the sake of attachment to a character.

I understand your frustration with the lack of features in ESO that are naturally present in many other titles out there.

Because, for years my gaming friends have been asking me to do something with add-ons about the same features you want.

But I'm really sad to say that there is nothing you can do, as Baertram said, ZOS forbids macros and makes it very clear that they are not open to suggestions.
They also have not allowed us for 10 years to do any modding via an add-on prior to character login.

All ZOS decisions and there is virtually nothing we can do about it.

Still, I have friends who take screenshots and save mid-configuration values and create avatars in a horribly unfriendly environment.

That's all you can do.